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You are here: Home / News / LKP holds Westminster meeting on commonhold

LKP holds Westminster meeting on commonhold

June 28, 2014 //  by Sebastian O'Kelly

Discussing alternatives to leasehold: Martin Boyd (left) of LKP holds Westminster discussion with hosts Jim Fitzpatrick (Labour MP, Limehouse and Poplar) and Sir Peter Bottomley (Conservative MP, Worthing West)
Discussing alternatives to leasehold: Martin Boyd (left) of LKP holds Westminster discussion with hosts Jim Fitzpatrick (Labour MP, Limehouse and Poplar) and Sir Peter Bottomley (Conservative MP, Worthing West)

“Millions have an interest in leasehold living. Most would gain when commonhold or strata title becomes the norm. 

“This meeting is an important step forward.

“In the near future, abuse and misuse and the shortcomings of leasehold can be tackled.

“For the future, there should be a timetable to end new residential leaseholds and to overcome any practical obstacles to the use of commonhold title.”

Sir Peter Bottomley and Jim Fitzpatrick, MPs


Last Thursday (June 26) the Leasehold Knowledge Partnership held an all-party meeting on commonhold in the House of Commons.

The meeting was organised by Martin Boyd, co-director of LKP, and hosted by MPs Ed Davey (LibDem), Sir Peter Bottomley (Conservative) and Jim Fitzpatrick (Labour).

More than 50 delegates attended from the Commons, the Lords, the civil service and the leasehold sector.

More than 50 representatives from the sector attended the LKP meeting on commonhold, including QCs Guy Featherstonhaugh and Phillip Rainey, and Professor James Driscoll, who had a role in initiating the 2002 Act
More than 50 representatives from the sector attended the LKP meeting on commonhold, including QCs Guy Fetherstonhaugh and Phillip Rainey, and Professor James Driscoll, who had a role in initiating the 2002 Act

Commonhold has been worked on and promoted by all three main parties since the 1980s as the alternative form of tenure to residential leasehold.

It is the system adopted by the entire world with the exception of England and Wales, which alone persist in perpetuating a form of residential tenure that derives from feudal times.

Commonhold finally became available in England and Wales following the introduction of the 2002 Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act.

Only 15 schemes were ever built and commonhold failed to take off as Britain gorged on its sustained property boom, and professions and mortgage lenders had little appetite for the novelty. The only major housebuilder to attempt to build commonhold was Crest Nicholson, but with no sunset clause establishing a date after which commonhold would become mandatory, interest faded away.

LKP’s Westminster meeting was the first high level discussion of the subject since 2002, and a number of speakers addressed how the system could work.

The meeting considered papers provided by property law QCs Guy Fetherstonhaugh and Philip Rainey, together with input from Professor James Driscoll, a professor of law and property tribunal chairman, who had been part of the original advisory group.

A detailed review of the legal aspects of the discussion will appear over the next few days on barrister Amanda Gourlay’s web site “Law and Lease” which can be found here http://www.lawandlease.co.uk/

Guy Fetherstonhaugh explained that nobody would ever invent leasehold if it did not exist, and he set out a number of advantages for commonhold.

He also took the audience through a number of weaknesses in the 2002 Act and how those might be addressed.

Philip Rainey professed himself to be a little more agnostic, arguing that we should try to fix the many issues in leasehold law. He also warned that commonhold also faced some problems.

Professor Driscoll, who was part of the original advisory group on commonhold and a keen enthusiast, took the meeting through a number of misconceptions on the subject.

The lawyers also made clear that something would need to be done to persuade the housing market to favour commonhold.

Rob Plumb, the CEO of the HML Group plc, which is accredited to LKP, highlighted the various additional and unjustifiable income streams that are widespread in leasehold.

Mr Fetherstonhaugh reinforced the point by stating that a housebuilder adopting leasehold effectively gets to sell an asset twice. First, he sells the leases, then he sells on the freehold reversion with its right to ground rent and other potential incomes.

The QC also put forward the need for the government to somehow offer either incentives to build commonhold, or disincentives to building leasehold.

Philip Rainey suggested that perhaps ground rents could be abolished as an income stream on new build developments or, alternatively, that there be some relief on stamp duty for initial commohold sales.

Martin Boyd, co-director of LKP, made the point that the government had failed to use its influence in the social sector to help prime the commonhold system.

At the suggestion of Sir Peter Bottomley a number of MPs have proposed to meet the Homes and Communities Agency to find out why it had not done more to promote commonhold.

What was clear from the meeting is that although some have their concerns over commonhold – in particular, the weaknesses in the legislation compared with what has already been established with leasehold – that it is a system that would be welcomed by the sector if it could be made to work.

Liz Peace and Ian Fletcher, respectively chief executive and policy director of the influential British Property Federation, supported the idea of incentives being provided to ensure commonhold could be allowed to work.

The meeting was attended by representatives from the Ministry of Justice, the Department of Communities and Local Government and the whole of the senior team from the Competition and Markets Authority, who are currently conducting a market review of the leasehold sector.

Senior figures in the sector also represented the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, the Home Builders’ Federation, British Insurance Brokers Association, AgeUK, Which? ACCA, ARMA, FPRA and LEASE.

That commonhold falls under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Justice, rather than the housing minister at DCLG, has not helped its cause. This was something the meeting felt might be changed.

Lord Best, a crossbencher and chairman of the Hanover Housing Association, explained to the meeting that he and other Lords had also met Lord Faulks, Minister for Justice in the Lords, earlier that day to discuss ways in which the commonhold legislation might be improved.

Baroness Gardner of Parkes, who has been a staunch supporter of commonhold from the outset, again gave her full support.

At the end of the meeting, Sir Peter expressed his wish that the forum would continue and would meet again.

LKP would like to thank all those who gave up their time and effort to attend and make so many positive contributions to the meeting.

Formal notes of the meeting will be circulated next week to attendees and those who were unable to attend.

An assessment of the meeting can be read on www.lawandlease.co.uk here

Karen Peel, a leasehold reformer based in Yorkshire, attended the commonhold round-table and this is her view of the meeting

KarenPeelAs a leaseholder, I attended the debate held at Portcullis House on June 26 to discuss why commonhold for new-build apartments and mixed-use developments has not been implemented.

I have come to the conclusion that this is because there are lots of organisations and companies that do not want to see it working, even though leasehold was deemed to be inappropriate for residential flat owners when Professor James Driscoll published his report back in 2002.

As someone who wants to see leasehold reformed to protect leaseholders from unscrupulous developers and landlords, I am not surprised by this lack of vigour for the promotion of commonhold within the industry.
Freeholders, developers, estate agents, pension providers, banks etc. would all have a great deal to lose if their cash cow were to be taken away from them by the introduction of the highly successful commonhold system.

I say highly successful as it seems to work all over the world, so why not here in England and Wales? Scotland also seem to do OK without leasehold tenure. Leasehold works to protect landlords and pension funds and not leaseholders, this cannot be right and proper. We now have the evidence it is not working and it is time for change.

There are some that may argue and say that leasehold can be reformed, but I do not believe it can be as others have been trying since 2002. The other key factor is the cost of making those reforms to leasehold and the time scales this will entail as nothing happens quickly when it comes to the law and I feel that a clean sweep with a new brush is the best way forward.

I would like to see all flats with leases having to divulge all the fees that have to be paid on a development at the point that the property is put up for sale.

That way buyers are aware of what a leasehold property costs to run on an annual basis. Currently, a buyer will only get this information when the solicitor has made their enquiries and is usually after the buyer has paid a small fortune in surveyors’ and solicitors’ fees.

I think all agreements on commonhold tenure should be set out in the same way as a Key Features Document is on a mortgage/insurance document, and is in plain English for clarity.

Far too many leases are worded in such a way that the general public have no idea what they are signing for and only find out after it is too late, usually when things start to go wrong.

I also think it would be good to have an Ombudsman Service which both parties would be able to access in the event of a dispute (as one does with any other financial purchase) it will help to keep the costs to a bare minimum and stop unscrupulous landlords and their lawyers from making a meal out of a very simple dispute.

Shortly, an Ombudsman service is being introduced for service charge issues regarding disputes between leaseholders and managing agents, why can’t landlord disputes be included in this?

There could be a small fee of a one off £10.00 when the lease is signed by the new buyer or current leaseholders could opt into this service for the same fee. This money is then put into the Ombudsman’s Fund to help pay for their services.

If commonhold were to be introduced there would be no need for ground rents, which are seen as a bonus to landlords as they are not used to maintain the development, only to justify selling their asset to other monetising companies.

How can this be right when we are talking about people’s homes?

Flat owners are used like pawns in a game of Monopoly and sold to the highest bidder and this needs to be stopped immediately.

I may be seen to be looking through rose-tinted glasses, but it is not difficult to sort out and make changes unless of course you are a freeholder or a lawyer!

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  1. Paul Joseph

    June 28, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Well done Martin. Big thanks to Prof Driscoll, thanks to whom the owners in our block acquired the right to manage our building and free ourselves of a rapacious managing agent controlled by the freeholder. We are now embarked on a freehold enfranchisement and would like to end up with commonhold.

    Speaking of “unjustifiable income streams,” how about the new practice of managing agents charging suppliers accreditation fees before they can be given any business?

    The figures for HML are

    Block Specific, £25 plus VAT for first year and £15 plus VAT p.a. thereafter; or
    Company-wide £180 plus VAT for first year and £90 plus VAT p.a. thereafter

    Justified?

    • martin

      June 28, 2014 at 7:26 pm

      Paul

      I assume you mean Judge Driscoll was the person who oversaw your RTM case?

      Not sure what accreditation fees on leasehold has to do with this subject, but would ask: if a managing agent does not vet its contractors would you be happy? I would expect most companies to run a formal accreditation scheme. If you asked a surveyor or solicitor to undertake due diligence on a potential supplier I would guess they may charge a little more than £25 +VAT. No doubt any site would scream blue murder if a contractor turned up without insurance, damaged the building and the managing agent said it was not its job to check them out …

      Would you rather not have a transparent system of charges, but go back to the sort of managing agent who does secret deals where the concentrator pays a managing agent a backhander based on the amount of business? That one has cropped up more than once in the social sector.

      Or, do you want the suppliers to run those “conferences” where the property managers get to stay in a hotel and drink themselves silly – all paid for in the hope the contractor then gets more business?

      Or, do you want the one like we had where BT provides full price bills to all the communal lift phones on your site and then passes the discount to a phone in the managing agent’s office? (Don’t worry Seb: we kept all the evidence so no need to worry about BT’s legal people saying it did not happen).

      Or, would you like the special payments from those utility buying companies as featured in an article on the LKP site where one company was offering up to £250,000 to large managing agents as an “incentive”?

      That’s here

      • Paul Joseph

        June 28, 2014 at 9:48 pm

        Martin,

        I thought Prof Driscoll was involved in drafting the 2002 legislation which enabled us to obtain RTM, so, no, not a case he presided over.

        I am not questioning for a second the desirability of vetting suppliers for the avoidance of van Houtens and other problems. I am questioning the costs.

    • AM

      June 30, 2014 at 2:12 pm

      I must admit that I am ambivalent on this. To this day some managers enter into commission arrangements with contractors, on an x per job or % of turnover basis and even a buy in basis. Transparent charging is to be lauded, but that said surely it is part of the manager’s core business to vet contractors and charging for this seems to be getting money from clients and the contractors. I don’t think that you could accuse HML of getting rich on these tiny amounts bearing in mind they will be spending time and money on checking them

  2. AM

    June 30, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    But even if it is made to work, and most of the relevant sections of the 2002 Act need shredding, I don’t think that existing schemes understand that hurdles that conversion present to them, most importantly compensating the landlord to enfranchise and then convert.. New schemes present few problems, but then you have a two track ownership system.
    One of the few good things about commonhold is rarely spoken about, that mixed tenure schemes especially those with houses, can also be owned as commonholds, making one stop management a reality when they are precluded from participating in enfranchisement.

  3. Gabby Hayes

    July 22, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Gabby Hayes (use initials GB only)

    I am currently appealing two decisions by the First-tier Tribunal because both hearings were conducted unfairly and strongly biased in favour of our landlord. I can say no more at this stage because both appeals are ongoing.

    I would like to suggest that a petition be set up calling for the sacking of Siobhan McGrath. She has already demonstrated where her loyalties lie and, if left unpunished, will do it again. Out she must go. Leaseholders must unite and call for her removal if she refuses to resign. THEY’RE ALL IN IT TOGETHER, and the sooner we see an end to all this immoral conduct from high places the better it will be for Joe public. It’s disgusting and deplorable that we should be subjected to the evils of those who are meant to be there to protect us.

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